32 SOLDIERS DEAD FROM HELICOPTER CRASH - DEBATE

[~*Jkeith*~]

Well I first wanna give my condolences to anyone who has lost a family member or loved one to this horrible war...

Now...I honestly believe that the whole Crash thing was a media cover-up because there is now way a dust storm brought down that big-a$$ chopper..I understand that there have been previous crashes due to these sudden 'out-of-nowhere' DUSTSTORMS..but come on...I think that it was shot down by an RPG or something.. because think about it...HOW WERE THERE 2 HELICOPTERs and only one was smart enough to fly over or past that shit????
THERE IS NO LOGIC IN THAT TO ME....Obviously you don't fly into the storm that can cause delays and Distortions to your equipment causing it to crash....I want to know what you all think??? FEEDBACK PLEASE!!!!!!

[Logikal]

Haven't heard about it but from what you said it makes sense. Why would any pilot fly into one instead of over it? And you say there were two helicopters? I wonder what the other pilot was saying to the pilot who flew into it. But then again, why would they cover it up? It's not going to be anything new to hear that our chopper got hit with a missle.

[~*Jkeith*~]

Exactly....but I'm thinking the cover was so it didn't look like insurgents were killing us...ya know? but at the same time id rather here about war deaths then "Accidental Deaths" ya know?? this war is sickening and im starting to get bothered with it....anyone else agree?? HOLLA AT ME! ~1~

[Logikal]

I've been bothered with it. I am not against it and wasn't in the first place, but I think that Saddam should have been taken out of power in 1991 and that's the plain truth. But if we leave now before Iraq is stable then it will have been for nothing.

[~*Jkeith*~]

And I totally agree with U.....but I hope all this election shit works out so we can get our troops out of there within the next year because if not...we are gonna lose more soldiers (1400 and counting....) and the draft will defintely be re-instated...and who are the prime subjects going to be drafted???........WE ARE!!....18 and UP Healthy citizens....NOOOOOOOOO......*Sighs and walks away in distress* (Crying)

[Logikal]

I wouldn't count on the draft being reinstated. First of all we are not at war so there is no legal basis for a president to reinstate a draft. Second it would be a politcal career suicide for any president to do that. I mean, "W" is a fuckin' idiot and he's also a hard headed redneck bastard, and this IS his last term, but I don't think it will fly. Third, we have the second largest standing military in the world (just a few tens of thousands shy of China if you include reserve troops) and we don't need a fuckin' half million troops in this little country with few citizens. Don't go runnin' off to Canada yet. I will join by my own free will if our country ACTUALLY NEEDS more troops. But I seriously doubt it will.

[~*Jkeith*~]

Yeah I feel U...but even though we have the second largest...it's still alot stronger than CHINA especially when I comes to the technology...I read up on CHina's Military...it has 2.8 million members...but gunz armor and weapons of such....SUCK A$$.....We have close to 2 million (Like U said including Reserve) but we are quite technologically more advanced when it comes to the feild of weaponry and field tactics and Urban Warfare than China... but thats off the subject....

It honestly doesn't matter if we have a big army because we are going through our last few reservist as it is.....We are going to need fresh troops soon due to the thin stretch of troops we have...And alot of soldiers tours are almost over....We've been there since MARCH of 2003...just think we sent 100.000 there in the first place and an averaga tour is one year...but alot of special ranked military men only serve six months...and thats not helping us...and also...There have been reported suicides and soldiers going AWOL that is bringing down the MORAL of our troops...If we don't leave within the next year U better believe there is going to be a draft....Last term or not...And There is a WAR going on...Operation: IRAQI FREEDOM and the So-CAlled WAR ON TERRORISM so that means he does have legal right to re-instate the drast if he chooses to..but like U said he is asking for SUICIDE if he does so...But at the same time REPUBLICANS are 10x's more WAR-READY then DEMOCRATS in my opinon (WHICH CAN BE A GOOD THING AT TIMES) so honestly I don't know exactly where I stand but this whole thing is gonna cost us big in the end....YOU WATCH....~1~