View Full Version : ROUND 3:: Venomous (1) vs Artifact (4)
-Green Machine-
09-01-2005, 05:02 PM
Okay...8 Bars like Round 2
DUE MONDAY
G'Luck You 2.!
Venomous
09-01-2005, 06:37 PM
Check...Mate.
Artifact
09-02-2005, 02:25 AM
Check... good luck ven
Venomous
09-02-2005, 10:45 AM
G'Luck Fam
Artifact
09-05-2005, 03:26 PM
Heres 5 bars... im tired & just developed a bad case of writers block, so its all ima drop
You should switch to audio & give it a try coz your wack-in-text
Face it, all of your lines are more puss than that cat-from-shrek
I come hard like Gotti-trends, this f.ag probly bought-his-friends
If you stole ‘back parts of cars’ you still wouldnt have ‘audi-ends’ (audience)
This faggot-is-simple, ill stab-you-in-temples with jagged-utensils
His raps stink so much he ‘draws flies’ like ‘maggots-with-pencils’
*Style Switch*
Youll be lucky if one blow-connects, with your stretched bars, its no wonder you got no flow-in-text
Think your a pro-&-vet? Nah, coz wen it comes to punches im an ‘anti toxin’ coz ‘venom has no-effect’
Teach you the harshest-lesson-kid, your crews not feared, its just overrated & thats why Art-rejected-it *
Ill scar-&-shred-his-spit, then ‘axe your trunk’ like ‘lumberjacks’ and best believe your ‘heart-&-chest-will-split’ **
* I left WLG a few weeks ago…
** Trunk = torso / tree trunk
Venomous
09-05-2005, 09:39 PM
Good ish man, ill match the five two so we even.
But you know i aint bite that line... it was recycled
Recycled admittance, shit ill ‘make ya pay’ like ‘remittance’ u aint no up and commer
V nix ya existence, u go tha distance? Ha, go stand n ‘line’ wit-da-others n take tha’ loss wit-a-number’// (now serving number 15 check my stats)
Set fire to tha ‘louvre’** only way ‘ARTS blazen’, now ya heart racin?
“copy ya own shit” ya “ART-tracin”(tracin paper) V’s ‘dropin bombs’ on ya so act like ‘new orthodontics’ n ‘start bracin’//
‘Bury u down 6 feet alive’ so you can have a ‘deep-thought’, your weak-taught
Cant ‘hold V back’ ART’s just a ‘cheap-lock’, n now im ‘burnin through this co.ck’ like the ‘STD that you got’ //
If disses were ‘dots’ ya still couldn’t ‘connect em’, spitin against newbies only time ya ‘ass’ ‘wrecked-em/rectum’
You must be ‘assaulting a religious woman’ cause wit all those ‘punches’ ya still ‘affect nun/none’//
You wack-in-text, V wrack-n-flex, n I aint talking ‘chiropratic’ when I say im ’crackin-necks’
Face it, ya ‘bound to lose’this, so jus ‘hand one to yourself’(the L) like ya ‘lackin-sex’// (hand one to yourself*masterbation/lackin sex)
**LOUVE one a of the worlds largest art museums in france, dude is 'art from the UK'
Artifact
09-06-2005, 04:18 AM
Nice verse venom...
Venomous
09-06-2005, 03:34 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz uppin votes
-Green Machine-
09-06-2005, 05:36 PM
Nice Shit.
Flow: Artifact
Punches: Tie
Multis: Artifact
Personals: -
Wordplay: Venomous
Enjoyment: Artifact
Overall Vote: Artifact
I'll explain it further...
Flow-Ven your lines are hard to flow with..and Art's were pretty much perfect on flow.
Punches-I gave it a tie becuase Ven may of had more..but the ones Art had were pretty sick.
Multis-Art because of this bar right here...
This faggot-is-simple, ill stab-you-in-temples with jagged-utensils
His raps stink so much he ‘draws flies’ like ‘maggots-with-pencils’
Personals-none becuase all those Art lines are played now..
Wordplay- Ven becuase he had more...
Enjoyment- Artifact because i felt it was overall better.!!
Venomous
09-06-2005, 07:57 PM
Ok thanks for voting...
Personals-none becuase all those Art lines are played now..
Even without the name play, No personals though?? first two lines of mine were about him recyclin his lines"recycled admittance" art-tracin, when you trace something you make and exact copy hence recycling. and I talked about him having STDs and him lackin sex and needin to jurk off, shit hows thats not personals?
Any who 0-1 Art
baklikecookdcrack
09-07-2005, 12:53 AM
Flow: Art
Punches: Tie
Personals: Venom
Creativity: Venom
Rhyme: Tie
Vote: Venom
Artifact
09-07-2005, 01:52 AM
Yeah, i had a nameplay & a line bout his crew & he had a couple of recyclin lines
and I talked about him having STDs and him lackin sex and needin to jurk off^On the other hand, thats not personal to me lol
Thanks for votin both of you
Thats 1-1
The Next Kanye West
09-07-2005, 07:02 AM
nice battle....better than wut i could do...lol
Flow: Art
Punches: Tie
Personals: Venom
Creativity: Venom
Multis: Art
Vote: Artifact
i felt artifacts verse was better by a lil....good battle...lol...peace
p.s....check out topical league in Dog House
Venomous
09-07-2005, 10:10 AM
Didn't know flow and mulites outways creativity and personals but...
2-1 Art
undissable
09-07-2005, 03:44 PM
Art..
You should switch to audio & give it a try coz your wack-in-text
Face it, all of your lines are more puss than that cat-from-shrek
^^ decent rhyme, concept is played cus I sorta used it, but I unno if you saw that.. funny tho (that why I used it)
I come hard like Gotti-trends, this f.ag probly bought-his-friends
If you stole ‘back parts of cars’ you still wouldnt have ‘audi-ends’ (audience)
^^ wordplay 8/10, I dunno what a Gotti-trend is tho.. still nice punch
This faggot-is-simple, ill stab-you-in-temples with jagged-utensils
His raps stink so much he ‘draws flies’ like ‘maggots-with-pencils’
^^ nice punch .. 'drawing' punches are always played, but I liked the way you flipped it 8/10
Youll be lucky if one blow-connects, with your stretched bars, its no wonder you got no flow-in-text
Think your a pro-&-vet? Nah, coz wen it comes to punches im an ‘anti toxin’ coz ‘venom has no-effect’
^^ finally a personal.. hot punch, nice rhymes, no complaint here (except I hate deez long ass bars).. but anyway 9/10
Teach you the harshest-lesson-kid, your crews not feared, its just overrated & thats why Art-rejected-it *
^^ nice personal
Ill scar-&-shred-his-spit, then ‘axe your trunk’ like ‘lumberjacks’ and best believe your ‘heart-&-chest-will-split’ **
^^ nice multis kinda a filler punch tho.. for a closer anyway 6/10
Venom..
Recycled admittance, shit ill ‘make ya pay’ like ‘remittance’ u aint no up and commer
V nix ya existence, u go tha distance? Ha, go stand n ‘line’ wit-da-others n take tha’ loss wit-a-number’// (now serving number 15 check my stats)
^^ this flow is hard to follow.. multis are hot, but thats it
Set fire to tha ‘louvre’** only way ‘ARTS blazen’, now ya heart racin?
“copy ya own shit” ya “ART-tracin”(tracin paper) V’s ‘dropin bombs’ on ya so act like ‘new orthodontics’ n ‘start bracin’//
^^ oh shit.. a lot better.. nice personals, wordplay, everthing.. 10/10
‘Bury u down 6 feet alive’ so you can have a ‘deep-thought’, your weak-taught
Cant ‘hold V back’ ART’s just a ‘cheap-lock’, n now im ‘burnin through this co.ck’ like the ‘STD that you got’ //
^^ deep-thought part is aight.. rest is garbage 5/10
If disses were ‘dots’ ya still couldn’t ‘connect em’, spitin against newbies only time ya ‘ass’ ‘wrecked-em/rectum’
You must be ‘assaulting a religious woman’ cause wit all those ‘punches’ ya still ‘affect nun/none’//
the rectum flip don't really make sense.. nun shit is played.. i played that tooo.. still ok tho, nice flow here 8/10
You wack-in-text, V wrack-n-flex, n I aint talking ‘chiropratic’ when I say im ’crackin-necks’
Face it, ya ‘bound to lose’this, so jus ‘hand one to yourself’(the L) like ya ‘lackin-sex’// (hand one to yourself*masterbation/lackin sex)
^^ starts hot, final punch is kinda weak .. closer 6/10
very close
Punches = Art
Flow = tie
Personals = Ven
Multi = Ven
Overall .. Art was more consistent .. Venom was hit or miss,
Art wins barely
bars
Venomous
09-07-2005, 04:02 PM
Ok.... Shit aint hard to follow if you pause, where the commas are.
Hit or miss lol thats comedy
Any ways 3-1
undissable
09-07-2005, 05:57 PM
Ok.... Shit aint hard to follow if you pause, where the commas are.
Hit or miss lol thats comedy
yo you really should just be glad someone took the time to break down and explain an honest vote.. fuckin smartass..
Venomous
09-07-2005, 06:23 PM
Shut the fuck up, your break down was wack so why would i thank you
This faggot-is-simple, ill stab-you-in-temples with jagged-utensils
His raps stink so much he ‘draws flies’ like ‘maggots-with-pencils’
^^ nice punch .. 'drawing' punches are always played, but I liked the way you flipped it 8/10
you like the way this is flipped but the flip makes no since, maggots dont draw flys maggots are fly larva. Good mulites but a really bad flip cause is doesn't fit the concept at all.
and this line
Youll be lucky if one blow-connects, with your stretched bars, its no wonder you got no flow-in-text
Think your a pro-&-vet? Nah, coz wen it comes to punches im an ‘anti toxin’ coz ‘venom has no-effect’
^^ finally a personal.. hot punch, nice rhymes, no complaint here (except I hate deez long ass bars).. but anyway 9/10
How is that a good bar talking shit about me stratching barz when ITS A STRECTCHED BAR ITSELF you even said "i hate these long barz" hmm let me talk shit about your long barz with a long bar... yeah thats 9/10
Abviously you dont get half my concepts so i guess your breakdown is legit for someone who doesn't get it
3-1 ARTIFACT
Artifact
09-08-2005, 01:52 AM
Thanks to the voters so far...
This faggot-is-simple, ill stab-you-in-temples with jagged-utensils
His raps stink so much he ‘draws flies’ like ‘maggots-with-pencils’
the flip makes no since, maggots dont draw flys maggots are fly larva^That make perfect sense & its a good concept... i know maggots dont draw flies, but pencils are related to drawin & maggots are related to flys...
Anyway, werent you the one who told zxc not to bitch bout votes in my battle with him? Yes, so dont be a hypocrite...
undissable
09-08-2005, 09:36 AM
Abviously you dont get half my concepts so i guess your breakdown is legit for someone who doesn't get it
Oh yea since these are soo fuckin complex:
:roll:
Recycled admittance, shit ill ‘make ya pay’ like ‘remittance’ u aint no up and commer
V nix ya existence, u go tha distance? Ha, go stand n ‘line’ wit-da-others n take tha’ loss wit-a-number’// (now serving number 15 check my stats)
^^ I really dont see whats not to understand about deez concepts
that's like 90% filler..
Venomous
09-08-2005, 10:37 AM
^^ ok whatever you say sport
Here ill break it down for you so you may understand it
Recycled admittance, shit ill ‘make ya pay’ like ‘remittance’ u aint no up and commer
This means that he is going to have to pay for recyling his lines and admitting to it. "remittance mean to pay someone. as a result he will never get anywhere hinse the up and commer. so in short someone who recyles lines an so forth will never elevate.
V nix ya existence, u go tha distance? Ha, go stand n ‘line’ wit-da-others n take tha’ loss wit-a-number’// (now serving number 15 check my stats)
this means battlin me mill make you non existent. Second part is a metaphore refering to deli lines in a store. When you get there you have to take a number and stand in line a what until its your turn. So again in short this line means ill kill you battlin me so you might as well stnad in line with the other losers and take your number. since my wins right now are 14 he would be 15, "now serving 15"
So lets see this line has about 7 multies in it wit two different rhyme schemes, 2 metas, a personal and a punch.
Regardless if you think its "filler" this line hits almost every catagory we vote on
And ART the maggot thing was good word associtation but when all it is is word association and doesn't fit in with what you are tryin to say, there is no punch. As far as the Z thing he bitched about legit votes, i am bitching cause the vote catigories aren't consistant 4 votes so far an 2 i got multies and 2 you got mulites. That is what frustrates me.
kingbrown
09-08-2005, 11:28 AM
this was a sick battle-and to help both mcs...i'll try an drop sum real feed since i haven't been able to vote in most tourney battles with WLG all up in it...
You should switch to audio & give it a try coz your wack-in-text
Face it, all of your lines are more puss than that cat-from-shrek
eh...decent. multies at end...not inners...punch was ok...just not really complex. stronger meta or WP woulda helped. Prob weakest punch from art…
I come hard like Gotti-trends, this f.ag probly bought-his-friends
If you stole ‘back parts of cars’ you still wouldnt have ‘audi-ends’ (audience)
nice setup, clean multies(3), sounded kinda like an early em rhyme scheme. nice punch/meta/wp hit too. it isn’t the hardest concept for a punch- ( needin to buy friends…not having an audience) but it is def clean and consistent. Very well setup. solid bar.
This faggot-is-simple, ill stab-you-in-temples with jagged-utensils
His raps stink so much he ‘draws flies’ like ‘maggots-with-pencils’
nice multies/flow, but really only strong part of bar. the punch just isn't clean. stinkin raps would attract(draw) flies, but maggots with pencils is nothing like that. the meta just doesn't work. Ok wit word association, but flies and maggots aren't even the same thing. same species, but its like relating a newborn to a full grown gangster, ya know? you can't really do it unless it’s setup to do so...
*Style Switch*
Youll be lucky if one blow-connects, with your stretched bars, its no wonder you got no flow-in-text
Think your a pro-&-vet? Nah, coz wen it comes to punches im an ‘anti toxin’ coz ‘venom has no-effect’
nice personal in first line and second line. Pretty clean bar. 4 multies well structured. Nice meta/punch on second. This was one of the better bars from art in terms of hittin all cats…wp is the only one missin…
Teach you the harshest-lesson-kid, your crews not feared, its just overrated & thats why Art-rejected-it *
Ill scar-&-shred-his-spit, then ‘axe your trunk’ like ‘lumberjacks’ and best believe your ‘heart-&-chest-will-split’
4 sikk multies here. Nice crew personal on first. Meta was ok with lumberjacks, but needed another concept or more wp. It was like a lot of sik multies but not enough content. but decent concept and consistent word association..
Recycled admittance, shit ill ‘make ya pay’ like ‘remittance’ u aint no up and commer
V nix ya existence, u go tha distance? Ha, go stand n ‘line’ wit-da-others n take tha’ loss wit-a-number’// (now serving number 15 check my stats)
decent personal on first line. There are two rhyme schemes goin on here..which is kinda nice. Remittance/distance, and comer/number…hard punch and clean reference with number. Flow is harder to follow with this rhyme scheme, but it is pretty complex
Set fire to tha ‘louvre’** only way ‘ARTS blazen’, now ya heart racin?
“copy ya own shit” ya “ART-tracin”(tracin paper) V’s ‘dropin bombs’ on ya so act like ‘new orthodontics’ n ‘start bracin’//
clean nameplay personals with fire to the louver and art tracin. Referencing recycling again…not bad..- I haven’t seen many battles with artifact so I don’t know if its played…but that’s kinda like sayin that any plays on king or brown or played too if “art” nameplays are played. Nice mulites here…flow is decent-maybe a lil stretched, but meta is clean at the end. Lots of concepts here…
‘Bury u down 6 feet alive’ so you can have a ‘deep-thought’, your weak-taught
Cant ‘hold V back’ ART’s just a ‘cheap-lock’, n now im ‘burnin through this co.ck’ like the ‘STD that you got’ //
first line is pretty good, as are the concepts in this entire bar. The only issue may be the wording. I think weak-taught should have been the setup…it may have flowed better. And then inserting a “like” instead of “just” may have just hit better. “can’t hold v back like arts a cheap lock”… u wanna find ways to not have to put a comma or breaks in your flow, ya know? Peeps can read it more easily sumtimes from what I’ve seen. Also man, the multies kinda fell off on the last line.. its coo with cheap lock/weak taught/deep thought, but you got and this c.ock threw it off. U may have lost sum multies points here missing the consistency…
If disses were ‘dots’ ya still couldn’t ‘connect em’, spitin against newbies only time ya ‘ass’ ‘wrecked-em/rectum’
You must be ‘assaulting a religious woman’ cause wit all those ‘punches’ ya still ‘affect nun/none’//
disses/dots not super complex, but works ok. the wreck-em/rectum flip is pretty nice wp word association. if u put (them) next to em it may have been easier for peeps to see this one. Multies clean here tho. The nun punch was clean, but not as fresh as other concepts.
You wack-in-text, V wrack-n-flex, n I aint talking ‘chiropratic’ when I say im ’crackin-necks’
Face it, ya ‘bound to lose’this, so jus ‘hand one to yourself’(the L) like ya ‘lackin-sex’// (hand one to yourself*masterbation/lackin sex)
sikk multies here and flow. The best flowin bar of ya verse-and it would have been even CLEANER if you had one more multi in the setup of the second line…like “face it, ya blasted next, so just hand one…” First meta is clean. Second was comedy…hand one referring to the loss/ jerkin off…lol This was a complex way to say it, and the setup helped. Pretty good closer…
final thoughts- nice battle you’ll. I do think that there is sum inconsistency in voting across the board… things like multies and flow aren’t really subjective. If it don’t flow well, u don’t git it. If u don’t have at two syllable or more rhymes, u don’t git multies. That’s it. Based on that, art was more consistent in structure, so the flow and multies also came across more consistent. Having said that, ven had that one bar with the 2 diff multi sounds which is pretty nice. If u notice, I had to give ven more feed, and this was just cuz the verse had more complexity to it and a lot of simultaneous concepts. The problem there is that peeps tend to miss things when its not spit as clean as possible. Very few heads will re-read ya ish 10x until it makes sense. That is where art had an edge here. The verse was simpler in content, but much easier to follow in a read through. The shorter bar section had nice flow and the multies do tend to stand out more in a shorter structure. Punches is subjective…I’ll leave that up to the voters…but it would probably decide the battle with the other cats bein so close. WP was the only lackin in these verses overall tho. Ven had a couple hits, and Art only had one real WP flip. It is def close and tough to call….
Stay up you’lll
KB
SiNiS
09-09-2005, 12:42 AM
8) I'm waiting...
Artifact
09-09-2005, 02:04 AM
Thanks for the feedback KB... much appreciated.
Still 3-1 :sleeping:
instinx
09-11-2005, 05:13 PM
at first i thought venom won.. but i looked again.. n then i could see artifact had won..
flow: art
punches: art had 3-4 punches dat was good.. n ven had 2-3 that hit
personals: ven
multies: tie
enjoyment: tie
creativity: ven
overall: art
undissable was right.. ven was hittin like every other punch.. while art had a flow of em goin right after the opener..
respect to both emcees..
Venomous
09-11-2005, 05:30 PM
4-1 TKO
I guess ill have to start spitin shit with less concepts and complexty so catz will understand it.
-Green Machine-
09-11-2005, 05:32 PM
Artifact Wins 4-1 TKO
You advance to the finals.!