Divine Training

[Divine Write]

I'm here to aid your flows progression..
If you need some help than pose a question....

[Muphaser]

meh, I can freestyle fine,

but when it comes to audio, like written down and rapped... Its:
Off beat, flows poor and just doesnt sound right...

I have ideas in mind which could help:
Learning the lyrics
loosening up
better mic


any other suggestions?

[A.Smith]

its all about syllable...just match them and you will not have long barz

[Divine Write]

Thanks Divine....?^^^

..Anyway..

I don't know how your writtens look....You might have extended bars which run into one another....

Most likely it's what most people new in audio do....You're not use to it...You haven't found your flow yet...This makes you stiff and almost sound robotish....Try and memorize your songs....Refrain from looking at a peice of paper...this will get you out of the groove of sounding like your reading as oppose to rapping...but basically just time will help you....You'll become more comfortable which will loosen you up and change the way your voice is projected..

[Muphaser]

:D

Thanks Divine x 2

(and smith)

[Phenom354]

practice pratice pratice

[Divine Write]

^^ No one else?

[GTech]

i believe Divine wants to help.. no1 else

[Divine Write]

Thanks GTech for the unnecessary commentary..

[the_butcher]

Im an ok text battler but i really suck hard when it comes to wordplay.What do i do?! :shock:

[A.Smith]

I CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT!!!...JUST PM ME

[Divine Write]

Hm...I guess A.Smith has that on lock than...

[Theory]

how can i come up with powerful punchlines or decent ones

and i also need help with complexity

[Divine Write]

Complexity is not something you can explain to someone....You can only acheive that through time....The better you get the more complex your writings will become...Just give it time...

Punchlines are basicaly the samething...Practice...than practice some more..Read battles from the best on this site..Like Anesthetic, JuJu, Baby_Uzi, Green Machine and so on and so on....The guys come up with some interesting punchlines...sit at home with a pad and pen and just write punches...Try to see if you can turn everything in your room into a punch..don't worry about how corney they are...no one will see them unless you want them to....When you're with your friends freestyle with them....If you can't say some stupid shit in front of your friends than who can you say stupid shit infront of?....This will aid with your quickness to come up with something...also just sit around with them and see if you can make punchlines at them with what they have one...If you do this everyday..You'll see results instantly...within a week you'll be at least 2 notches above where you use to be...

This goes with everything....if you want to get better all you have to do is practice....Make sure you put aside at least an hour a day to do so...

[alfa-q]

man ur good any way teach i need help

ppl say my wordplay seems forced at tyms yet wen i say it it seems ryt(is it coz i dont have an american accent lol) any way wen im spitting my multis ppl say i shouldnt shortn my words coz it kills the flow but wen i dont shorten the words its maken the multis seem draged n forced. im lost.

[Divine Write]

Can you supply me with an example?..

[T-Stylez]

divine,
my hooks are always fcked up should i rap em? sing em? should it b complicated ? just gmme some regular info... thanks man!

[Divine Write]

I've never seen or heard your hooks....so it's diffilcult to say....

whether you sing them or rap them is up to you...the vibe of most instrumentals will set the tone of the hook for you...

Hooks should be simple though...You don't want to write something complicated...when I work on them I just think of the best way to summarize the song in about 4 bar....but at the same time I remain vague....

I haven't written any hooks recently...but the most recent hook that I had written is on a song that was written to an instrumental...the tone of the beat made it so I had to write one that would be sung..(and not by me...I suck)..The song is about someone looking in a mirror and giving their feelings on themself...The hook went like this...

Who are you?..
Seen through..Teared filled eyes....
Who are you?..
Removed..Lost inside....

You'd have to hear the instrumental to catch the flow...there's a flute sort of sound in it the rolls with the wording perfectly....It almost sounds like the instrumental is saying it....I gave a synopsis of the story while keeping it vague....I don't know if this helps...I think I confused myself..

[T-Stylez]

cool thanks for the tips man

[Fantasy]

Divine while ya giving out advice whats the best way i can tell my girlfriend im cheating on her for Rhianna 8) :lol: :wink: :wink: :twisted: :roll:

nah sorry about that lol, back to the serious note

I'm having problems with battling, i can easily do free's i can just write bar after bar on any subject in free's and i really enjoy being able to do that its just my battling isnt up to the standard that i wont it to be i know i have it in me to battle but im struggling to make hard hitting punches, check out some of my battles and your'll know what i mean the bars are okay but just punch isn't a hard hitting one, any help mate?

[Divine Write]

On battling...I say stay away from wordplay..(it just seems irrelavent in a battle to me)..and stick with the metaphores...

What I usually do is take something everyone can identify with...You don't want to over complicate your punches...if you feel you have to explain what you're talking about...too complicated...The reader so be able to know right away what you mean..without any thinking...its should be plain as day...

Here's an example of something I made forever ago...and I think I posted it on here somewhere....

Watch as I astound and shock while pounding this measly dweep down from mountain tops..
Compete with me?..Please that acheivment seems further out of reach than Gary Colemans counter tops....
To trample the weak isn't anough..I'll brandish hammers and beat the animal off this amatuers teeth..
This ignorant fuck only tampers with beef since he believes underground is poorly prepared hamburger meat....

I forget who this was aimed towards...that's beside the point...In both lines everything is identifiable...I think everyone knows who Gary Coleman is...and I took the attribute most closely associated with him...his height...In the second bar I did the same...Everyone in the world knows what Hamburger is....So I took two ideas everyone can relate to and used them in a way to attack some one....I didn't over complicate the punch which would have been easy to do...everyone reading can catch the punch and under stand the metaphors....

They're simple yet affective...Hard hitting in my opinion..Those two bars are the perfect example for guidelines....and I'll lay some out for you to aid you better

When thinking of a punchline towards an opponent you must do these things in the order they are presented...

1. Determine how you want to attack...You must first think of a punch that you would like to execute...
1a. When picking your attack you must keep it simple...Make is so everyone reading can easly pick-up on what you are getting at...

2. You must than decide how you are going to structure your punch...The way you present and word a line can make all the difference....

3. You than must decide a rhyming word/s...Do not pick a word you would like to rhyme before you figure out what you want to say and how you would like to say it....Doing this after you decide your structure will cause you to alter it a bit....but if you have thought it out carefully it will not be by all that much...Maybe a few words will be in places that you had not intended them on being in...

4. The bar...You must have two lines within your bar...Your first line does not have to have any correlation with your punch...Although making it so it does will make your punch just that much better...Your first line must present an attack on your opponent...this line is perfect for randomly attacking who you are facing head-on with out worrying about creativity...You can come out and attack your opponent in the most unrelenting way that you know how...

If you stick to these four guidelines you shall create an interesting and hopefully unique punchline...

As for aiding with your metaphores..Pratice...I know I should like a broken record but it works...The only way you can get better at something is to take time out and practice it....A member of a band does not get any better if he only relies on band practice for working on his technique...No...You must do it on your own...Just look around whatever room you are sitting in and think of metaphores for the things around you...If you have a big T.V. think of something else that is big and compare the two...try and over exaggerate...Use an elephant or something like that to decribe your T.V...Obvioulsy it's not that big but it will paint a decriptive and somewhat humurous picture in the readers minds....Thus the not "over complicating" thing...if you do so it will be diffilcult for them to paint the picture you are presenting...

[Fantasy]

cheers for that mate, your a man with many talents :wink: 8) :lol: lol, cheers man

[T-Stylez]

hey man, ehm i don't think i can suply you with an example with this 1
but... Some people say that a battle should contain all things, like
punches, wordplay, and all that, And they also say a normal rap shouldn''t
contain all that. Now i want to know how you think about that and what
should contain a rap and what wouldn't. THANKS!!

[Divine Write]

Whoever is telling what a rap should and shouldn't contain is ignorant...A rap should contain whatever the hell you want it to contain..It's expression and if you have to abid by some guideline of what you can and can not put into it, it wouldn't be very expressing...If you want to put punchlines and wordplay into your straight raps than do it...If you want to put multies and inner multies into them...so be it...It's up to you what it should contain...No one else...

As for battles...In my opinion...only thing they should contain is your best and hardest effort to demean your opponent...whether you feel it's with punches or wordplay...or just straight bashing him with hard lyrics...

[T-Stylez]

thanks son