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chi*vice
12-18-2006, 08:47 PM
i'm starting to see this alot and i'm not like'n it bcuz it is a form of cheating in disguise and this should become popular here on rapdogs

ok not swaying votes or n e thing but your verse was pretty much right there and is the perfect but not so bad example ....

the rules 4 mine a Cool C's battle was 4 bars mine was a lil stretched but still in the 4 bar range as far as lines go...





but this new form is just flat out cheating

for example : This is wut Cool C verse looked like
Collateral damages I brake cords im banishing this amateur cause chi couldn’t command the force if was a general for star wars//!
The family is a bunch of deadbeats like DEAD Beats your creds weak cause this battle is like Bruce his chi is no longer (deadly) dead LEE//!

Chi vice hold it down not barely` cool c not falling I DROP THE BARS I must not be with CINGULAR the way I have CHI UNDER HIS CALLING//!
Destroying crews is nothing to me the last to members are weak start with Chi ~ K.O. Block leave shoalin under my shadow and depleting any existents of bandwagon rider in king MC//!

Now behold this sacrificial lamb he is my burnt offering I make chi vice see Christ` ima assassin for Bob BAKER watch me kill if THE PRICE IS RIGHT//!(game show the price is right the shows host bob barker)
Cause when chi see ice he sees life no matter what one say` cause I eat more chickens the Christians on Sunday//!

Im quick to snap shots like a Kodak in the artic I make sure I freeze frame him` Hey chi I see If you can’t beat them you Hall Fame him//!(big ups to trigo)
Cause my punches come in bunches like jakita im equip with clip bananas you want to get shit off your chest Chi I adVICE you to put you heart in a pamper//

looks about right as far as length,but without the font size be'n made smaller this is wut it looks like :


Collateral damages I brake cords im banishing this amateur cause chi couldn’t command the force if was a general for star wars//
The family is a bunch of deadbeats like DEAD Beats your creds weak cause this battle is like Bruce his chi is no longer (deadly) dead LEE//!

Chi vice hold it down not barely`cool c not falling I DROP THE BARS I must not be with CINGULAR the way I have CHI UNDER HIS CALLING//!
Destroying crews is nothing to me the last to members are weak start with chi ~ K.O Block leave shoalin under my shadow and depleting any existents of bandwagon rider in king MC//!

Now behold this sacrificial lamb he is my burnt offering I make chi vice see Christ` ima assassin for bob BAKER watch me kill if THE PRICE IS RIGHT//!(game show the price is right the shows host bob barker) Cause when chi see ice he sees life no matter what one say` cause I eat more chickens the Christians on Sunday//!

Im quick to snap shots like a Kodak in the artic I make sure I freeze frame him` Hey chi I see If you can’t beat them you Hall Fame him//!(big ups to trigo) Cause my punches come in bunches like jakita im equip with clip bananas you want to get shit off your chest Chi I adVICE you to put you heart in a pamper//




now thats a not a really big diffrence unlike sum(i.e. the reason i used Cool C as and Example) but a few of you are getting way outta hand with this stuff

the reason i'm starting this thread bcuz ppl who are do'n normal bars are loosing battles to this style of text and the cats are go'n to others bcuz they have made way more room to put that extra pizzaz in there verse..becuz its stretched

ya bars should not go from 1 end of the page to the other ....

now this is a mild example.. cuz Cool C verse wasn't as bad as others,tho it was very stretched

but yeah wut do ya'll think...should this style be allowed or wut?

~1~

johnny 5
12-18-2006, 09:35 PM
it depends, i know that i've had to shorten bars coz mine can get pretty lengthy. but when you got like 5 lines streched out n' shrunken then it's ridiculous. but other than that, if it doesn't go past three lines itain't really that bad.

quiet$torm
12-18-2006, 11:14 PM
yea man...it plays a trick on ur mind......the txt does...i was thinken the same thing but i ddnt say anythign......but i think its somewat cheatin.....i was about to start doin that 2 cuz my lines are long.........so yea chi.......i dont like it either....

Anesthetic
12-19-2006, 10:45 AM
Dude, I was JUST about to comment on that because i just read the battle verse. I think shrinking your barz in order to make them, essentially, twice as long so you can fit more "information" (or what have you) into them, is just flat out cheating.

Red Tha Baron
12-19-2006, 10:51 AM
..i dont think its cheatin when other people are doin it...
..maybe it should just be put in the rules: no shrinkin text from now on
..but to DQ some1 for that...bullshit
..but i quess we can agree to stop doin it or somethin...

johnny 5
12-19-2006, 11:58 AM
..i dont think its cheatin when other people are doin it...
..maybe it should just be put in the rules: no shrinkin text from now on
..but to DQ some1 for that...bullshit
..but i quess we can agree to stop doin it or somethin...

your only saying that coz you just did it in one of your battles and you
don't want to get labled as a cheater.

Antic
12-19-2006, 11:58 AM
As someone who typically text-battles with shorter bars, I think it's a grey area. Putting your font size smaller to throw twice or three times as many punches is kind of shady. Yeah, it give you more room to expand on multis and what-not, but it is kind of cheap.

I personally think that one should be able to throw solid, hard-hitting punches in shorter bars. Writing shorter bars allows textcees to transition to audio easier. Can't do the crazy long stretched bar thing in audio, unless you want twice as many bars.

IMO, I think that there should be a rule against shrinking your font to tiny sizes. Just my two cents.

Red Tha Baron
12-19-2006, 12:04 PM
your only saying that coz you just did it in one of your battles and you
don't want to get labled as a cheater.

..STFU
..i did that in one battle
..and my arent as stretched as Cool Cs...so yeah. i normally do short bars, but hey.
..anyway, DQin for that cant be justified unless its really stretched or some shit. but like i said, maybe from now on we can just stop doin it.

LYRICS
12-19-2006, 12:47 PM
i dont think you should shorten them i cant bloody read them so small and dont make them blue

alfa-q
12-19-2006, 12:51 PM
^word. tryna read at small ass font on ur mobile is mad hard!

alfa-q
12-19-2006, 12:51 PM
^word. tryna read dat small ass font on ur mobile is mad hard!

H@RIKH@
12-19-2006, 01:00 PM
Yeh I would say its a form of cheating. Not enough to get a DQ, but people should notice it and give him less credit for his verse, even though I wouldn't rate it v high.

You should make it as part of the house rules, that doing that should be a DQ. You can make your font smaller, but not make it so that it looks like the bar isn't stretched.

Fantasy
12-19-2006, 01:22 PM
Good spottin' i see it as cheating becasue getting morwe room to built up strong punches,

from now on in my battles im gonna say no shriken text!!!

Cool c
12-19-2006, 04:29 PM
MY bars is not stretched i just make them in bars not lines

1)Collateral damages I brake cords im banishing this amateur cause chi couldn’t command the force if was a general for star wars//


2)The family is a bunch of deadbeats like DEAD Beats your creds weak cause this battle is like Bruce his chi is no longer (deadly) dead LEE//!

3)Chi vice hold it down not barely`cool c not falling I DROP THE BARS I must not be with CINGULAR the way I have CHI UNDER HIS CALLING//!

4)Destroying crews is nothing to me the last to members are weak start with chi ~ K.O Block leave shoalin under my shadow and depleting any existents of bandwagon rider in king MC//!

5)Now behold this sacrificial lamb he is my burnt offering I make chi vice see Christ` ima assassin for bob BAKER watch me kill if THE PRICE IS RIGHT//!

(game show the price is right the shows host bob barker)

6)Cause when chi see ice he sees life no matter what one say` cause I eat more chickens the Christians on Sunday//!

7)Im quick to snap shots like a Kodak in the artic I make sure I freeze frame him` Hey chi I see If you can’t beat them you Hall Fame him//!

(big ups to trigo)

8.)Cause my punches come in bunches like jakita im equip with clip bananas you want to get shit off your chest Chi I adVICE you to put you heart in a pamper//

not that stretched just a little i just like the way it look got it from KIng thats the first time i every did that

[King_Mc]
12-19-2006, 04:35 PM
^^LMAO :roll: .. so C passes me the ball i ges.. but heres min w/o shrinkin them. not stretched.. i just like how it looks i ges, but if its a problem, i'll stop..

rusted n tainted! i leave him pondering over 'religion or beef' like having 'luncheons with pagans'...
hit? Antics punches be grazin'! i got this geek outraged like cheating in dungeons and dragons!...//

man who u better then? like ya whack crew i dont have to 'Go Hard' to set a trend...
i wipe out ya text! and have his readers 'pointing @ blank screens like weather men'!...//

K spit in 'Tics faces! i leave this 'wrangler dusted' like jeeps in drift races...
i rip at sick paces! ur lines? i seen better 'second hand' bars stolen from thrift places!...//

u serious, this biting Antic? this kid 'go to war' worse than that of african fighting tactics...
he good at text? you'll never see this 'A-game' like flunkies 'suiting up' for 'writing practice'!...//

Antic
12-19-2006, 05:31 PM
Huh...King's look okay...Cool C's look alright...maybe it just looks that way....

BigL14
12-19-2006, 06:39 PM
shorts da wayy to goooo..
yezzir

[King_Mc]
12-19-2006, 06:42 PM
^^ yea but biting lyrics isnt.. why u keep comin back invince???

chi*vice
12-19-2006, 06:44 PM
yeah Coolz were strecthed but i aint call'n a dq in our battle ... i'm just say'n that this shrink'n bars should not bcome to frequent in battles ...

cuz rules state how long bars should be and if that means we need to ban this then i will put it up in the mod forum or if ya'll wanna ok it i will put it in the mod forum and see to it that its gets voted on ....

Also to Cool C .. i used yours as an example cuz they were'nt as stretched as sum i've seen latley..but u did it in that form so i used it to make my point... so i'm not call'n foul i our battle ....

thats my 2 cents..^^^

uppin for more opinions

Dr Deep
01-01-2007, 03:48 PM
Im not well known here, but some have seem my lyrics... i love small bars and about 95% of the time win on flow....

however, not to be a bad looser but i feel sometimes that i've been left shorthanded because the opponent has fitted so much more information then me...

Small bars are easier to 'feel' when your reading them i think, apposed to hearing...

EmceeSmythe
01-01-2007, 05:12 PM
Dr Deep, I use some of the shortest bars on RapDogs and I feel what you're saying.

People are gonna stretch their bars cause it's text, that's just a fact.

But changing font size is a gimmick, you're right.

It sucks but maybe we need a rule change. It's kinda sad that people are doing that, though.

Leto
01-01-2007, 07:13 PM
It should be a dq if stretched over 3lines

SiiNiDE
01-01-2007, 07:49 PM
I feel ya'll. I've started 'down-sizing' mine, and making the font smaller. Not cause i'm trying to fit more, but case I think it looks cooler. Sometimes a few words flow to the next line tho and I don't like that, so I down-size the font.

(x [____] %)DiViNe BuDhiZ
01-01-2007, 07:56 PM
I feel ya'll. I've started 'down-sizing' mine, and making the font smaller. Not cause i'm trying to fit more, but case I think it looks cooler. Sometimes a few words flow to the next line tho and I don't like that, so I down-size the font.
Yeah, that's how I was doing it but then LOL, people find that hard to read as well. So I try to just post it however.

LYRICS
01-02-2007, 05:36 AM
yep im one of them that cant read the small text it annoys me so much lol

admin
01-02-2007, 04:54 PM
BigL14, aka Invincible, be cool.

Thread closed. Doesn't seem like cut and dry biting or cheating.