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MANE
08-03-2007, 09:03 PM
For those who don't know, the Holy Trinity represents God in three forms: The father, son, and holy spirit. If you take those three forms, can you find a connection between them and mind, body, and soul?

God is portrayed as a figure which has existed since the beginning, the present, and into the infinite future (Sounds a bit like how one would define energy, eh? Anyways, back on topic). God's physical presence is made through the son, also known as Jesus. Without Jesus, God's only "real" presence with us is made through our minds. To complete the trinity, the Holy Spirit is the essence of goodness within ourselves, and through the father and the son we can strive to let the holy spirit overflow into the darkness of the world.

Now, with that said, how could one relate the father, son, and holy spirit to mind, body and soul?

mc_lite
08-03-2007, 09:52 PM
I remember when we talked about this.. how the Father represents the mind, the Son represents the body, and the Holy Spirit represents the soul. Even if one doesn't believe in Christianity or Catholicism, one can believe in the idea of the Trinity.

"Young Blaze"
08-03-2007, 10:29 PM
Even if one doesn't believe in Christianity or Catholicism, one can believe in the idea of the Trinity.

Yea, Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth

ZEUS AKA DA DEFINITION
08-12-2007, 03:16 PM
Hell naw i dont believe in da trinity
so wat u sayin iz jesus christ iz god

mc_lite
08-12-2007, 06:19 PM
....Not at all. I don't believe in Jesus Christ, or God, but I do believe in the trinity. It represents the connection of mind, body, and soul.

aMERiKaZ NiGHTMaRE
08-12-2007, 07:31 PM
The Trinity Def Does Exist... If Somewhat Severed...

Cats_Pajamas
08-12-2007, 08:08 PM
Hell naw i dont believe in da trinity
so wat u sayin iz jesus christ iz god

This post just made me laugh. LoLz

SiiNiDE
08-14-2007, 10:29 PM
Hell naw i dont believe in da trinity
so wat u sayin iz jesus christ iz god

Your signature; What's an 'Assassion'? Anyway, on to the subject at hand.. I'm a firm believer in Christianity. Though, that has nothing to do with this, I'm putting it out there to show where my views stem from. Yes, a person can believe in the trinity and no be 'Christian'. As Mane stated- The idea of The Trinity stems from the idea of 'Mind, Body And Spirit'. Though, if you have read any Christian writings (AKA The Bible) is does go much, much deeper than this. But yes, that is the basic idea. And a person can believe in The Trinity and not be Christian. Examples of this is Budaism (Spelling? :? ). Buddhists believe strongly in the body, but also believe in the power of the soul (spirit) and the mind.

Sands
10-24-2007, 11:50 AM
i dont see any reason to think it is referring to mind/body/spirit thats more of an Eastern/Asian philosophy of religion that has been translated into modern and New Age healing commercials and what have you.

i think it is more of a metaphor for Systems scaling down within Systems. Like you see in the planets and solar systems, etc. The planets revolve aorund the sun, the solar system revolves around the galactic center plane (blackhole probably), the galaxy probably revolves around yet somethign bigger. On the micro scale electrons and what have you revolve around a nucleus, then the deeper you go u see smaller and smaller versions of the same cyclical scales that are found in the stars.

This is just my interpretation. Could also be the astrological houses being scaled down.

The Christians would just say, no its all literal and nothing deep about it... The Father is God, The Son is Jesus, the Holy Spirit is in you.

LYRICS
10-24-2007, 11:56 AM
there was actually a person called jesus christ im not sure if they over rated him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWflF_p0y-k

Sands
10-24-2007, 11:11 PM
yes i believe 100% he was and is real

UnIQuE_SEEK
12-13-2007, 03:37 AM
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh,and the Holy Spirit is God in us,i respect all of your views and opinions,and God created man with Free will,Jesus Christ is not an emaginary figure of history,he,in a historicaly correct sense,walk on this earth,there is plenty of historical writtings to back that up....no to mention AD(anodomony:the year of our Lord)..BC(before Christ)...but back to the trinity,the easiest way to "try" and illistraight it is...water..(H2O)...as a fluid,a gas(steam),and solid(ice)...the same substance in 3 forms...so the holy trinity is God in three forms,to deny God as real,is to deprive yourself life,to deny Christ as real is to deny Eternal life,

we all live,and all will die,
where will you spend eternity?

intellectual
12-24-2007, 09:49 PM
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh,and the Holy Spirit is God in us,i respect all of your views and opinions,and God created man with Free will,Jesus Christ is not an emaginary figure of history,he,in a historicaly correct sense,walk on this earth,there is plenty of historical writtings to back that up....no to mention AD(anodomony:the year of our Lord)..BC(before Christ)...but back to the trinity,the easiest way to "try" and illistraight it is...water..(H2O)...as a fluid,a gas(steam),and solid(ice)...the same substance in 3 forms...so the holy trinity is God in three forms,to deny God as real,is to deprive yourself life,to deny Christ as real is to deny Eternal life,

we all live,and all will die,
where will you spend eternity?

In accordance with scientific method and its application, the burden of proof is on you, so, prove the following

-Jesus Christ is God in the flesh
-the Holy Spirit is God in us
-God created man with free will

If you take these things as a matter of faith, fine, but if I am so inclined to be unfaithful, is that of any fault of my own? Since God created all things, including me, he would be responsible for every fiber of my being. This would include my inability to believe in him (full disclosure: i am an anti-theist agnostic) and mean that God made me unable to believe in him.

You are correct in saying that there was a person named Jesus in the time and place of Jesus, as recorded by the reliable historian Josephus. But all Josephus said of Jesus is that he was an Essene Jew stirring things up. This does not consolidate any other story relating to Jesus in the Bible.


You say that by denying God I am denying life. I see that you are trying to say that because God gave me life, that I am denying him and life, but if I don't believe in God of course this wouldn't be effective in the missionary sense.

You say that by denying Jesus I am denying myself eternal life. Untrue even by your standards, because I will be residing eternally in hell. Again, I am an anti-theist, which means I do not want God. This is precisely why: I do not want to spend forever alive, and I do not want to bow to a God who made me not want to bow to him.

Another thing, would you agree that there is no suffering in heaven? Would you also agree that there is free will (a good thing) in heaven?
If so, then why is there suffering on earth? Is God providing us with a test that can never be passed but by a lonesome few? I don't know.
If not, then heaven doesn't sound so appealing.

Siinide- the word Trinity never appears in the Bible


I close with this by the Greek philosopher Epicurus:

"Is [God] willing to prevent evil, but not able? then is he impotent. Is he able, but not willing? then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? whence then is evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

and

Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. If God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?

CAZMUNDI_CZA
12-30-2007, 02:52 PM
to answer in a Christian reference but potty mouth


satan fucked eve over
eve fucked adam over
we all got fucked over and God knew it ahead of time (scary , huh)
HE let us have free will so the game of life could happen

too much is missing from the bible to judge reality/ unreality from it alone
ask biblical historians (time reference to their specialization)
about the scores of source documents the catholic church has tainted and or hid from us all