Questions Awnsered

[UnIQuE_SEEK]

ey post your questions in here and i will try find you awnsers with facts/books/references to back it up..

[surprise]

Ok why do scholars ignore the value of the Vesica Piscus in the creation of the Fish as the holy symbol of Christ?

[mc_lite]

I got this one..

Most believe that the cross symbolizes his death for all people.. And while the creation of the fish shows his compassion and love, scholars believe the greatest act of compassion was his dying for our sins.

[surprise]

but why the vesica piscus as the symbol? the geometric symbol known for its special mathematical properties? why not a fish sign that looks different, like the other symbols, to different artists?

[UnIQuE_SEEK]

well for starters its "Vesica piscis" not "Vesica piscus"

Definition:

"The vesica piscis is a shape which is the intersection two circles of the same radius, intersecting in such a way that the center of each circle lies on the circumference of the other. The name literally means the bladder of the fish in Latin. The shape is also called mandorla ("almond" in Italian).

The term is also used more generally for any symmetric lens"

Mystical and religious significance:

It has been the subject of mystical speculation at several periods of history, perhaps first among the Pythagoreans, who considered it a holy figure.The mathematical ratio of its width (measured to the endpoints of the "body", not including the "tail") to its height was reportedly believed by them to be 265:153. This ratio, equal to 1.73203, was thought of as a holy number, called the measure of the fish.The geometric ratio of these dimensions is actually the square root of 3, or 1.73205... (since if you draw straight lines connecting the centers of the two circles with each other, and with the two points where the circles intersect, then you get two equilateral triangles joined along an edge). The ratio 265:153 is an approximation to the square root of 3, with the property that no better approximation can be obtained with smaller whole numbers. The number 153 appears in the Gospel of John (21:11) as the number of fish Jesus caused to be caught in a miraculous catch of fish, which is thought by some to be a coded reference to Pythagorean beliefs. Coventry Patmore has written a poem called Vesica Pisces, Part XXIV of the Book I of his cycle The Unknown Eros (1877)

Pythagoreanism: is a term used for the esoteric and metaphysical beliefs held by Pythagoras and his followers, the Pythagoreans, who were much influenced by mathematics and probably a main inspirational source for Plato and platonism.

Later resurgence of ideas similar to those held by the early Pythagoreans are collected under the term Neopythagoreanism.

In conclusion the Vesica piscis has no biblical backing at all,and is just a demonstration of the times,of mathematical logic,and there for it really has no relavince to Christianity,as a religion(to me Christianity is not a religion its a personal relationship,a way of life,but thats a whole new topic;)

[UnIQuE_SEEK]

mc_lite,your statment has no basis,or point for that matter...please elabourate...